Well I'm not sure how I'm supposed to go about this but I guess I'll just post two seperate posts.

With these issues, what is success and the workforces, the conversation whould be looked at and discussed in an outsiders point of view. The questions raised, such as what is success and who are losers are all questions that go back to an individual's personal beliefs, which are ultimately in some way influenced by our childhood expeiriances. Ideally it would be better if our personal experiances and individual beliefs were extracted in order to enable us to look at these topics from a different point of view without any bias. Of course we all know that this is impossible hence the word "ideal". However, this ideal conversationwould lead to unbiased discussions and discoveries. In comparing this ideal way of conversation to the past two class discussions it is very hard to say that they were conducted in an unbiased way. With a little effort the sescond class discussion was much more unbiased, and I believe this discussion went over much better than the one influenced by our personal ecperiences.